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This is the first guest post on this site and it’s entirely fitting that it’s written by Tony, a regular reader and commentator who is on a very similar path to our own.
Tony plans to move abroad in 2012, and like us he’s not doing it with millions in the bank. Reading his post highlights just what you can achieve if you put your mind to it.
In this guest article I’m going to talk about my plans to retire early to Asia. I first developed the plan a few years ago, after having travelled in Thailand, Malaysia, and Japan. In particular, after one trip to Thailand, I decided to look into the feasibility of early retirement to Thailand. Having researched visas, land ownership regulations and cost of living, I decided it was an idea that was certainly within the realms of possibility. Some of my research was actually done “on the ground” in Thailand – I rented an apartment in Bangkok for a few months, and remote worked. I estimated that I would need around 55,000 Baht per month to live comfortably in Bangkok – at today’s exchange rates that is around £1000 per month. A retirement visa can easily be obtained from age 50 in Thailand, as long as sufficient proof of funds is available. A retirement visa has the advantage of you not having to exit and re-enter the country every 90 days, something that is required with other types of visa.
Having established the feasibility, and cost, the question arose – how was this income going to be generated? I decided that keeping a house in the UK, and renting it out, would be the way to go. This not only gave me an income, but an appreciating asset. Property prices in Asia can be unpredictable at best, and tend not to follow the trends we have become used to in the UK. There are also no end of illegal properties, scams, and regulatory issues. It is not legal for foreigners to own land in Thailand for example, although there are several dodgy ways around this, it’s not worth it in my opinion, especially as excellent quality rented accommodation can be had at low cost. My penthouse apartment in Bangkok cost around £300 per month, negotiated down from £500 per month. It had fantastic views over Bangkok, 24-security, two very large swimming pools, balcony, two restaurants, maid service, bar, a mini-mart, a huge gym with saunas, plunge pools, massage, the latest exercise equipment, broadband, and a jazz quartet playing once a week in the lounge bar area! Try getting that for 300 quid a month in the UK!!
It was apparent that in order to maximize my rental income, I would need to pay down as much as possible on my mortgage (the practicalities of that would take another article!). Even so the rental income was projected to be around £700 per month, and more like £400 net, leaving a shortfall. I decided that this shortfall could be made up through an online business, and/or part-time remote working/consulting. Part-time English teaching would also be an option, but it’s poorly paid. OK, so now we were talking semi-retirement, rather than full retirement, but it was better than the alternative of working until I drop dead in the UK! If my online business and remote consulting work could bring in £600 per month I would be comfortable. Anything more would be a bonus. Having already had experience of remote working from Bangkok, I felt this would be the best option, and I would only need to work a couple of days a week to have more than enough income.
So the next question I faced was when to “retire”. I would be 50 in 2012, so that seemed a good target date, as I would qualify for the Thailand retirement visa at that time. In 2012 my outstanding mortgage balance is projected to be £9,000, and savings projected to be £32,000. The capital requirements for a retirement visa are currently around 800,000 Baht, about £14,500. Alternatively, you can demonstrate income of 65,000 Baht. If I was prepared to exit the country and re-enter every 90 days, I could forgo the capital/income requirement. As my fixed interest rate mortgage ends around 2012 I would also have the option of paying off the mortgage completely, giving me a slightly greater monthly rental income. If I delayed by one year I would have a mortgage balance of 0, and projected savings of around £41,000. In subsequent years I’ve calculated I would be able to save at a rate of £18,000 per year (with no mortgage). This would obviously build my capital rapidly. This leads to an interesting dilemma – keep working to build capital, or take time out to enjoy the delights of Thailand – especially the scuba diving? Tricky one. This did beg the question, how long would I need to continue working for, before I was financially independent via rental income and savings interest? I have not yet done that calculation in detail, as current interest rates on savings are far too depressing. However, £100,000 at 4% would be £4,000 per year, or £330 per month. Combined with the rental income that would just about be a live-able income, especially out on one of the islands. It would, however, take me until 2016 to save £100,000. Would the extra 4 years be worth it to become fully-retired, rather than semi-retired?
What I’ve found though are there are almost an infinite number of permutations in the retirement/relocation game. For example, staying in the UK and contract working, and then living (but not working) in Asia for six months of the year is also an option. I’ve already tested this out and it worked well. Also, relocating within Europe and continuing to work would be another option with its own pros and cons. At times it can be confusing, so I think this is where having a concrete idea of when and where you want to go to can really help narrow down the options. Sometimes though it’s like there are too many choices! That is actually a good thing though!
At the moment I’m still sticking with my 2012 retirement date. Back in 2004 I was left with a large debt and no assets due to divorce, so I think going from broke to semi-retired in just 8 years, or to fully-retired in 12 years, is not bad going at all. It’s also worth pointing out I earn a modest salary – I am no high-flier. When I first started really analyzing my finances I was about £100 in the red each month. I have turned that around to the point where I am saving £500 per month and overpaying on the mortgage by £500 per month – on more or less the same salary. I think that shows how much money I was wasting through a combination of a consumer mindset and bad management! If you had told me back in 2004 I could potentially be retired within a decade I would have thought you were mad. It still amazes me how financial situations can be rapidly turned around.
I think having objectives for retirement is important. I have a great interest in diving, so I know that will be part of my retirement. I would also like to get involved in travel writing, photography, and I have a couple of ideas for online businesses that I would like to launch. I’m also a keen swimmer and runner, so keeping fit would also keep me occupied for a good chunk of the day. Having these goals in mind leads to a more rewarding retirement.
Good Luck with your own retirement plans!
Thank you Tony!
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Very inspiring and also interesting. I didn´t know any of those facts about Thailand. Good luck!
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Super inspiring post! Have never considered Asia as a retirement locale and am interested in finding out more now. Thanks for the head start.
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Great thinking on your part. I think it is essential to have a pre/retirement plan. I know my own husband is thinking of his even though we are only relocating over one state.
I noticed a lot of people are moving to Thailand – there must be good offers over there. I have to say I would love having a jazz quartet in my quarters!
I wish you all the best with your plans.
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Thanks for the positive comments folks. I tried to post some additional links but unfortunately they didn’t make it through the spam filter.
I enjoyed this post. I like how you have researched this by living in Thailand for a period of time. You haven’t discussed the climate. Did you find any difficulties in adjusting to the humidity? Or is this not an issue for you? (I ask since I currently live in a dry cold climate and found it hard to adjust when I moved from a warmer more humid one).
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@OlivArmor: I live in England which, for much of the year, is wet, grey and cold. Living in Thailand where it is hot and sunny, and where I can enjoy the outdoor pursuits I love such as diving and swimming was heaven to me
Having said that you are quite right. It can get unbearably humid at certain times of the year. To be honest, I’ve so far managed to miss the worst times of the year there though. In April it is 40C in Bangkok and humid. So that brings its own challenges. What tends to happen is people disappear off into an aircon sanctuary until later in the day. People tend to be more active in the evening until quite late at night when it is a little cooler – everything seems to be open 24/7. The best times of year in Thailand are November to around Jan/Feb when it is cooler (upper 20C lower 30C), then it gets hot, then it gets rainy.
On a side note, the only place I have been to with a “perfect” climate is the Portuguese island of Madeira. The climate is more or less consistent all year around. When I was there it was around 25C, sunny, with a beautiful cooling breeze. That is about perfect for a pale skinned Englishman like myself.
Have to agree about Madeira – we got sunburned there in late January! Did you ever visit the neighbouring island or Porto Santo?
We are 5 weeks into our big move and loving it so far! Good luck with yours!
B
@Ben: yes, that cooling breeze can be deceptive. I was there in April, and it was just about perfect. We were able to have days sitting by the pool or walking along the coast down into Funchal where we didn’t get too hot, burnt or too cold. Sometimes in Thailand it isn’t possible to go outside because it is just too damn hot. Your blog looks good by the way.
@Ben: Oh sorry I missed that bit about Porto Santo. We had planned to go there – I cocked up the schedule. I think there was no ferry on the day only day we could make it – something like that. There’s a chance we might go back, and take in Porto Santo – I hear it is really nice.
Yes, Porto Santo is fantastic – looks like there is more development going on there now and I have heard rumours (pre-credit crunch) of a direct flight from the UK – I would recommend a visit before it gets spoiled.
You may be interested to read my report on a trip to there and Madeira that I posted some time ago http://www.movingtoportugal.org/?p=66
Best wishes, Ben
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Ben, you just summed up my fears for Madeira very nicely there. The scale of development is frightening (and EU funded) – they are even talking about cable cars into the mountains there. No one seems to understand why that might be a bad thing. I can understand their reasons, but it seems to me like they are slowly killing the goose that lays the golden egg. As you say I think I will need to be quick if I want to see Porto Santo in a relatively unspoiled state. I originally considered Madeira as a retirement destination, but I think the development there was one factor that put me off.
Thailand, i’m not sure what I would do there, I’m not really a beach person and I dont like the heat, I like the mountains and the fresh brisk air.
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Dreamer: yes, Thailand is not everyone’s cup of tea – totally agree. For me one of the big attractions is the warm climate, excellent diving, and general fun, happy-go-lucky environment. I’m not a “beach person”, but I do like swimming and snorkelling. If you get away from the obvious westerner haunts there’s a great quality of life to be had. Sounds like you’d be happier with somewhere like Canada – Nova Scotia is relatively cheap, but really nice.
Tony – this was a great post and made so much more interesting to read by your giving a lot of detail! We (husband and I) early 50s in same position as you (except we sold our house). We are now renting while we plan to go abroad but a) can’t decide exactly where; and b) husband will need to work for two more years in UK (not able to work via laptop). I’m starting to think that it is best to go as soon as possible as we, none of us, know what is round the corner… and sticking around, saving a bit more capital here and there (as the years fly by) is just starting to feel like procrastination…
@anna: yes I can understand your situation. I can’t offer any suggestions on a suitable destination for you as I’m not sure what you are into, but you could travel around for a bit and try a few different places if you haven’t got an idea yet. One advantage of not having a house is that you have that freedom to rent anywhere. Also, while your husband and yourself may not be able to work via the Internet now, there’s no reason why that can’t be changed. I was in the same situation myself a few years back – I was a technical trainer. I made the conscious decision to make a change into technical writing for the very reason it *could* be done remotely. There is also usually *something* you can do to create an income locally wherever you find yourself. Well, good luck with whatever you decide to do, and glad the article was useful on some level.
@Tony. Thanks for that. I’ll have to move alone for the first two years with husband coming out to see me every so often – so not far for first move. Maybe South of France as it seems familiar and I speak some French. Then, after he has left and sorted out some laptop work then we can really fly! Six months in many places until/if we decide where to drop anchor for a longer period. I am into being nomdic at the moment. We’ve got rid of a lot of our stuff but husband wants us to move next with only enough stuff to take to a hotel – how exciting! I wonder if it can really be done.
Oh, that would be ‘nomadic’.
Wow, what a great post!
It nearly made me want to save up to move to Thailand!!
And if the diving is as good as you say it is, I may have to change my life plans.

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@Anna: sounds great!
@SS4BC: yes, the diving there is excellent. I’m also a big fan of snorkeling – it’s less encumbered, you just need a mask, snorkel and some flippers and that’s it! The diving is also wonderful in Malaysia, and the Philippines. I have a friend who works as a diving instructor he moves with the seasons through Malaysia, Thailand, Micronesia, Indonesia and Philippines. There is great diving throughout SE Asia if that is what you are into. If you get a chance, give Thailand a go.